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Being of the 15 [[Elector]]s the counts of Talabecland cast one of the votes in the election of a new [[emperor]]. Being [[Elector Count]]s makes them one of the major candidates.  
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Being one of the 15 [[Elector]]s the Talabecland counts cast one of the votes in the election of a new [[emperor]]. Being [[Elector Count]]s makes them one of the major candidates.  
  
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They harbour an ancient family feud with the [[Elector Count of Stirland|Elector Counts of Stirland]]. It ''seems'' to have begun in '''1359 IC''' as '''Ottilia''', Elector Countess of Talabecland, refused to acknowledge the election of the '''Count of Stirland'''. She accused him of bribery and declared the whole election a sham. Supported by many, she self-proclaimed herself '''Empress Ottilia I'''.  
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They harbour an ancient feud with the [[Elector Count of Stirland|Elector Counts of Stirland]], which ''seems'' to have begun in '''1359 IC''' as '''Ottilia''', Elector Countess of Talabecland, refused to acknowledge the election of the '''Count of Stirland'''. Accusing him of bribery, declaring the whole election a sham and supported by many, she self-proclaimed herself '''Empress Ottilia I'''.  
  
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This act started the [[Age of Three Emperors]], a centuries-long civil war during which the Elector Counts of Talabecland were [[Ottilian Emperor]]s, leaders of a major faction. They relinquished their claim to the throne upon the election of [[Magnus the Pious]] in '''2304 IC''' <ref>'''Terror in Talabheim''' (sourcebook for WFRP 2nd edition) p.5 - note: ''this source needs confirmation''</ref>.   
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This act started the [[Age of Three Emperors]], a centuries-long civil war during which the Elector Counts of Talabecland were [[Ottilian Emperor]]s, leaders of a major faction. They relinquished their claim to the throne upon the election of [[Magnus the Pious]] in '''2304 IC''' <ref>'''Terror in Talabheim''' (WFRP 2nd edition) p.5 - note: ''this source needs confirmation''</ref>.   
  
  
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Their residence is the city-state of [[Talabheim]], Talabecland's capital. The current Elector Count of Talabecland is '''Helmut Feuerbach''' who disappeared recently <ref>'''Uniforms & Heraldry of The Empire''' (sourcebook) p.9 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition) p.22</ref>.
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Their residence is the semi-independent city-state of [[Talabheim]], Talabecland's capital. The current Elector Count of Talabecland is '''Helmut Feuerbach''' who disappeared recently <ref>'''Uniforms & Heraldry of The Empire''' p.9 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition) p.22</ref>.
  
  
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|align=center|unclear, around 0 IC
 
|align=center|unclear, around 0 IC
 
|align=center|King of the [[Taleutens]]
 
|align=center|King of the [[Taleutens]]
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|align=center|<ref>'''The Life of Sigmar''' (sourcebook) - '''The Empire at War''' (sourcebook), chapter ''Unity of Forces - The Battle of Black Fire Pass''</ref>
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|align=center|<ref>'''The Life of Sigmar''' - '''The Empire at War''' chapter ''Unity of Forces - The Battle of Black Fire Pass''</ref>
 
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|align=center|'''Ottilia I'''
 
|align=center|'''Ottilia I'''
 
|align=center|unclear, around 1360
 
|align=center|unclear, around 1360
 
|align=center|first [[Ottilian Emperor|Ottilian Empress]]
 
|align=center|first [[Ottilian Emperor|Ottilian Empress]]
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|align=center|<ref>'''The Empire at War''', chapter ''Guile - the Battle of the Talabec'' - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (4th Edition) p.8 & 11 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (6th Edition) p.59 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition) p.10 & 30</ref>
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|align=center|<ref>'''The Empire at War''' chapter ''Guile - the Battle of the Talabec'' - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (4th Edition) p.8 & 11 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (6th Edition) p.59 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition) p.10 & 30</ref>
 
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|align=center|'''Frederik V'''
 
|align=center|'''Frederik V'''
 
|align=center|unclear, around 1547
 
|align=center|unclear, around 1547
 
|align=center|refused to step down in favour of Count '''Siegfried''' of Middenland who became the first [[Wolf Emperor]]   
 
|align=center|refused to step down in favour of Count '''Siegfried''' of Middenland who became the first [[Wolf Emperor]]   
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|align=center|<ref>'''Terror in Talabheim''' (sourcebook for WFRP 2nd edition) p.5 - note: ''this source needs confirmation''</ref>
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|align=center|<ref>'''Terror in Talabheim''' (WFRP 2nd edition) p.5 - note: ''this source needs confirmation''</ref>
 
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|align=center|'''Ottilia'''
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|align=center|'''Ottilia III'''
 
|align=center|unclear, around 2010
 
|align=center|unclear, around 2010
 
|align=center|ruled at the start of the [[Wars of the Vampire Counts]]
 
|align=center|ruled at the start of the [[Wars of the Vampire Counts]]
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|align=center|<ref>Warhammer Armies: Undead (4th Edition) p.26 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (5th Edition) p.22 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (7th Edition) p.14</ref>
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|align=center|<ref>Warhammer Armies: Undead (4th Edition) p.26 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (5th Edition) p.22 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (7th Edition) p.14 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (8th Edition) p.12</ref>
 
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|align=center|'''Ottilia'''
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|align=center|'''Ottilia IV'''
 
|align=center|? - 2100
 
|align=center|? - 2100
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|align=center|was assassinated at the '''Battle of the Four Armies''' by order of Lutwik  
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|align=center|was assassinated at the '''Battle of the Four Armies''' by order of [[Lutwik]]
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|align=center|<ref>Warhammer Armies: Undead (4th Edition) p.26 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (5th Edition) p.22 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (7th Edition) p.14</ref>
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|align=center|<ref>Warhammer Armies: Undead (4th Edition) p.26 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (5th Edition) p.22 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (7th Edition) p.14 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (8th Edition) p.14</ref>
 
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|align=center|'''Helmut Feuerbach'''
 
|align=center|'''Helmut Feuerbach'''
 
|align=center|? - present
 
|align=center|? - present
 
|align=center|current ruler of Talabecland
 
|align=center|current ruler of Talabecland
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|align=center|<ref>'''Uniforms & Heraldry of The Empire''' (sourcebook) p.9 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition) p.22</ref>
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|align=center|<ref>'''Uniforms & Heraldry of The Empire''' p.9 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition) p.22</ref>
 
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===See also===
 
===See also===
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*[[Elector Count]]
 
*[[Elector Count]]
 
*[[Elector]]
 
*[[Elector]]
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==Notes & sources==
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==Notes & sources==   
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*It's '''possible''', but very unlikely, that there was only a single ruler (a single Ottilia) during the entire Wars of the Vampire Counts. However that would mean that she ruled over 90 years, was still fit to travel, and a worthwhile target for assassination; an extremely unlikely possibility.  
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*It's unknown if an equal primogeniture (eldest child, regardless of gender, is the rightful heir) is the norm in Talabecland. It's possible that the eldest daughter inherits only if she has no brother at all. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primogeniture Read the respective article of Wikipedia]
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*It's unknown if the eldest child, regardless of gender, was the heir-apparent (an equal primogeniture). It's possible that the eldest daughter could rule only if she had no brother at all. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primogeniture Read the respective article of Wikipedia]
 
 
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Revision as of 22:18, 31 January 2012

The Elector Count of Talabecland is the ruler of Talabecland, a province of The Empire. This noble title is usually passed on in a hereditary fashion.


Being one of the 15 Electors the Talabecland counts cast one of the votes in the election of a new emperor. Being Elector Counts makes them one of the major candidates.

They harbour an ancient feud with the Elector Counts of Stirland, which seems to have begun in 1359 IC as Ottilia, Elector Countess of Talabecland, refused to acknowledge the election of the Count of Stirland. Accusing him of bribery, declaring the whole election a sham and supported by many, she self-proclaimed herself Empress Ottilia I.

This act started the Age of Three Emperors, a centuries-long civil war during which the Elector Counts of Talabecland were Ottilian Emperors, leaders of a major faction. They relinquished their claim to the throne upon the election of Magnus the Pious in 2304 IC [1].


Their residence is the semi-independent city-state of Talabheim, Talabecland's capital. The current Elector Count of Talabecland is Helmut Feuerbach who disappeared recently [2].


known rulers of Talabecland
name reign notes sources
Krugar unclear, around 0 IC King of the Taleutens [3]
Ottilia I unclear, around 1360 first Ottilian Empress [4]
Frederik V unclear, around 1547 refused to step down in favour of Count Siegfried of Middenland who became the first Wolf Emperor [5]
Ottilia III unclear, around 2010 ruled at the start of the Wars of the Vampire Counts [6]
Ottilia IV ? - 2100 was assassinated at the Battle of the Four Armies by order of Lutwik [7]
Helmut Feuerbach ? - present current ruler of Talabecland [8]

See also

Notes & sources

  • It's unknown if an equal primogeniture (eldest child, regardless of gender, is the rightful heir) is the norm in Talabecland. It's possible that the eldest daughter inherits only if she has no brother at all. Read the respective article of Wikipedia
  1. ↑ Terror in Talabheim (WFRP 2nd edition) p.5 - note: this source needs confirmation
  2. ↑ Uniforms & Heraldry of The Empire p.9 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition) p.22
  3. ↑ The Life of Sigmar - The Empire at War chapter Unity of Forces - The Battle of Black Fire Pass
  4. ↑ The Empire at War chapter Guile - the Battle of the Talabec - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (4th Edition) p.8 & 11 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (6th Edition) p.59 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition) p.10 & 30
  5. ↑ Terror in Talabheim (WFRP 2nd edition) p.5 - note: this source needs confirmation
  6. ↑ Warhammer Armies: Undead (4th Edition) p.26 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (5th Edition) p.22 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (7th Edition) p.14 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (8th Edition) p.12
  7. ↑ Warhammer Armies: Undead (4th Edition) p.26 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (5th Edition) p.22 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (7th Edition) p.14 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (8th Edition) p.14
  8. ↑ Uniforms & Heraldry of The Empire p.9 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition) p.22
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