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The '''Elector Count of Talabecland''' is the ruler of [[Talabecland]], a province of [[The Empire]]. This noble title is usually passed on in a hereditary fashion.  
 
The '''Elector Count of Talabecland''' is the ruler of [[Talabecland]], a province of [[The Empire]]. This noble title is usually passed on in a hereditary fashion.  
  
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== Overview ==
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Being one of the fifteen [[Elector]]s, the Count casts one of the votes in the election of a new [[emperor]]. Being an [[Elector Count]] also makes the Count of Talabecland one of the major candidates for the throne.
  
Being of the 15 [[Elector]]s the counts of Talabecland cast one of the votes in the election of a new [[emperor]]. Being [[Elector Count]]s makes them one of the major candidates. They harbour an ancient reciprocal feud with the [[Elector Count of Stirland|Elector Counts of Stirland]].
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They harbour an ancient feud with the [[Elector Counts of Stirland]], which "seems" to have begun in '''1359 IC''' as [[Ottilia]], Elector Countess of Talabecland, refused to acknowledge the election of the [[Count of Stirland]]. Accusing him of bribery, declaring the whole election a sham and supported by many, she self-proclaimed herself Empress Ottilia I.  
  
This family feud ''seems'' to have begun in '''1359 IC''' as '''Ottilia''', Elector Countess of Talabecland, refused to acknowledge the election of the '''Count of Stirland'''. She accused him of bribery and declared the whole election a sham. Supported by many, she self-proclaimed herself '''Empress Ottilia I'''.
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This act started the [[Age of Three Emperors]], a centuries-long civil war during which the Elector Counts of Talabecland were [[Ottilian Emperor]]s, leaders of a major faction. They relinquished their claim to the throne upon the election of [[Magnus the Pious]] in '''2304 IC'''{{Fn|1}}
 
 
This act started the [[Age of Three Emperors]], a centuries-long civil war during which the Elector Counts of Talabecland were also [[Ottilian Emperor]]s, leaders of a major faction. They relinquished their claim to the throne until upon the election of [[Magnus the Pious]] in '''2304 IC''' <ref>'''Terror in Talabheim''' (sourcebook for WFRP 2nd edition) p.5 - note: ''this source needs confirmation''.</ref>. 
 
 
 
 
 
Their residence is the city-state of [[Talabheim]], Talabecland's capital.
 
 
 
The current Elector Count of Talabecland '''Helmut Feuerbach''' disappeared recently <ref>'''Uniforms & Heraldry of The Empire''' (sourcebook) p.9 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition) p.22</ref>.
 
  
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Their residence is the semi-independent city-state of [[Talabheim]], Talabecland's capital. The current Elector Count of Talabecland is '''Helmut Feuerbach''' who disappeared recently.{{Fn|2}}{{Fn|3}}
  
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== Known Counts ==
 
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!colspan="4" style=background:#FFBF00|'''known rulers of Talabecland'''
 
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|align=center|'''Krugar'''
 
|align=center|'''Krugar'''
|align=center|unclear, around 0 IC
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|align=center|unclear, around '''1 IC'''
 
|align=center|King of the [[Taleutens]]
 
|align=center|King of the [[Taleutens]]
|align=center|<ref>'''The Life of Sigmar''' (sourcebook)</ref>
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|align=center|[[The Life of Sigmar]], {{Cite This}}<br>[[The Empire at War]], chapter ''Unity of Forces - The Battle of Black Fire Pass''
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|align=center|'''Talgris'''
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|align=center|unclear, around '''40'''
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|align=center|Son of Krugar, founds Talabheim
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|align=center|[[Sigmar's Heirs]], pg. 20
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|-
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|align=center|'''Bela'''
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|align=center|unclear, around '''1111'''
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|align=center|
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|align=center|''Dead Winter'' (Novel) pg. 28
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|-
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|align=center|'''Cvitan'''
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|align=center|unclear, around '''1114'''
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|align=center|
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|align=center|''Blighted Empire'' (Novel) pg. 281
 
|-
 
|-
 
|align=center|'''Ottilia I'''
 
|align=center|'''Ottilia I'''
|align=center|1360 - ?
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|align=center|unclear, around '''1360'''
|align=center|first [[Ottilian Emperor|Ottilian Empress]]
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|align=center|first [[Ottilian Empress]]
|align=center|<ref>'''The Empire at War''', chapter ''Guile - the Battle of the Talabec'' - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (4th Edition) p.8 & 11 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (6th Edition) p.59 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition) p.10 & 30</ref>
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|align=center|[[The Empire at War]], chapter ''Guile - the Battle of the Talabec''<br>[[Warhammer Armies: The Empire (4th Edition)]], pgs. 8, 11<br>[[Warhammer Armies: The Empire (6th Edition)]], pg. 59<br>[[Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition)]], pgs. 10, 30
 
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|align=center|'''Frederik V'''
 
|align=center|'''Frederik V'''
|align=center|unclear, around 1547
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|align=center|unclear, around '''1547'''
 
|align=center|refused to step down in favour of Count '''Siegfried''' of Middenland who became the first [[Wolf Emperor]]   
 
|align=center|refused to step down in favour of Count '''Siegfried''' of Middenland who became the first [[Wolf Emperor]]   
|align=center|<ref>'''Terror in Talabheim''' (sourcebook for WFRP 2nd edition) p.5 - note: ''this source needs confirmation''.</ref>
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|align=center|[[Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (2nd Edition)]], pg. 5 "Terror in Talabheim" (N.B. needs additional confirmation)
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|align=center|'''Horst the Cautious'''
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|align=center|unclear, around '''1750'''
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|align=center|
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|align=center|[[Sigmar's Heirs]], pg. 17
 
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|align=center|'''Ottilia'''
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|align=center|'''Ottilia III'''
|align=center|unclear, around 2010
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|align=center|unclear, around '''2010'''
 
|align=center|ruled at the start of the [[Wars of the Vampire Counts]]
 
|align=center|ruled at the start of the [[Wars of the Vampire Counts]]
|align=center|<ref>Warhammer Armies: Undead (4th Edition) p.26 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (5th Edition) p.22 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (7th Edition) p.14</ref>
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|align=center|[[Warhammer Armies: Undead (4th Edition)]], pg. 26 <br>[[Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (5th Edition)]], pg. 22<br>[[Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (7th Edition)]], pg. 14<br>[[Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (8th Edition)]], pg. 12
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|align=center|'''Ottilia IV'''
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|align=center|? - '''2100'''
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|align=center|was assassinated at the '''Battle of the Four Armies''' by order of [[Lutwik]]
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|align=center|[[Warhammer Armies: Undead (4th Edition)]], pg. 26 <br>[[Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (5th Edition)]], pg. 22<br>[[Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (7th Edition)]], pg. 14<br>[[Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (8th Edition)]], pg. 14
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|align=center|'''Frederik'''
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|align=center|? - '''2429'''
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|align=center|
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|align=center|[[Sigmar's Heirs]], pg. 22
 
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|align=center|'''Ottilia'''
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|align=center|'''[[Dieter von Krieglitz]]'''
|align=center|? - 2100
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|align=center|'''2429''' - ?
|align=center|was assassinated at the '''Battle of the Four Armies''' by order of Lutwik
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|align=center|After being deposed as Emperor, [[Wilhelm III]] made him Count of Talabecland. The previous count, Frederik, retained control of Talabheim.
|align=center|<ref>Warhammer Armies: Undead (4th Edition) p.26 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (5th Edition) p.22 - Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (7th Edition) p.14</ref>
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|align=center|[[Sigmar's Heirs]], pg. 22
 
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|align=center|'''Helmut Feuerbach'''
 
|align=center|'''Helmut Feuerbach'''
 
|align=center|? - present
 
|align=center|? - present
 
|align=center|current ruler of Talabecland
 
|align=center|current ruler of Talabecland
|align=center|<ref>'''Uniforms & Heraldry of The Empire''' (sourcebook) p.9 - Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition) p.22</ref>
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|align=center|[[Uniforms & Heraldry of The Empire]], pg. 9<br>[[Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition)]], pg. 22
 
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===See also===
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==See also==
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*[[Ottilian Emperor]]
 
*[[Elector Count]]
 
*[[Elector Count]]
 
*[[Elector]]
 
*[[Elector]]
*[[Emperor]]
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*[[Ottilian Emperor]]
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== Notes ==   
==Notes & sources==
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*It is unknown if an equal [[Wikipedia:Primogeniture|primogeniture]] (eldest child, regardless of gender, is the rightful heir) is the norm in Talabecland. It's possible that the eldest daughter inherits only if she has no brother at all.
*It's '''possible''', but very unlikely, that there was only a single ruler (a single Ottilia) during the whole Wars of the Vampire Counts. However that would mean that she ruled over 90 years, was still fit to travel, and a worthwhile target for assassination; an extremely unlikely possibility.  
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*It's unknown if the eldest child, regardless of gender, was the heir-apparent (an equal primogeniture). It's possible that the eldest daughter could rule only if she had no brother at all. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primogeniture Read the respective article of Wikipedia]
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== Sources ==
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*{{Endn|1}}: [[Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (2nd Edition)]], pg. 5 "Terror in Talabheim" (N.B. needs additional confirmation)
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*{{Endn|2}}: [[Uniforms & Heraldry of The Empire]], pg. 9
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*{{Endn|3}}: [[Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition)]], pg. 22
  
 
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Revision as of 01:22, 31 December 2016

The Elector Count of Talabecland is the ruler of Talabecland, a province of The Empire. This noble title is usually passed on in a hereditary fashion.

Overview

Being one of the fifteen Electors, the Count casts one of the votes in the election of a new emperor. Being an Elector Count also makes the Count of Talabecland one of the major candidates for the throne.

They harbour an ancient feud with the Elector Counts of Stirland, which "seems" to have begun in 1359 IC as Ottilia, Elector Countess of Talabecland, refused to acknowledge the election of the Count of Stirland. Accusing him of bribery, declaring the whole election a sham and supported by many, she self-proclaimed herself Empress Ottilia I.

This act started the Age of Three Emperors, a centuries-long civil war during which the Elector Counts of Talabecland were Ottilian Emperors, leaders of a major faction. They relinquished their claim to the throne upon the election of Magnus the Pious in 2304 IC[1]

Their residence is the semi-independent city-state of Talabheim, Talabecland's capital. The current Elector Count of Talabecland is Helmut Feuerbach who disappeared recently.[2][3]

Known Counts

known rulers of Talabecland
name reign notes sources
Krugar unclear, around 1 IC King of the Taleutens The Life of Sigmar, Needs Citation
The Empire at War, chapter Unity of Forces - The Battle of Black Fire Pass
Talgris unclear, around 40 Son of Krugar, founds Talabheim Sigmar's Heirs, pg. 20
Bela unclear, around 1111 Dead Winter (Novel) pg. 28
Cvitan unclear, around 1114 Blighted Empire (Novel) pg. 281
Ottilia I unclear, around 1360 first Ottilian Empress The Empire at War, chapter Guile - the Battle of the Talabec
Warhammer Armies: The Empire (4th Edition), pgs. 8, 11
Warhammer Armies: The Empire (6th Edition), pg. 59
Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition), pgs. 10, 30
Frederik V unclear, around 1547 refused to step down in favour of Count Siegfried of Middenland who became the first Wolf Emperor Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (2nd Edition), pg. 5 "Terror in Talabheim" (N.B. needs additional confirmation)
Horst the Cautious unclear, around 1750 Sigmar's Heirs, pg. 17
Ottilia III unclear, around 2010 ruled at the start of the Wars of the Vampire Counts Warhammer Armies: Undead (4th Edition), pg. 26
Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (5th Edition), pg. 22
Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (7th Edition), pg. 14
Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (8th Edition), pg. 12
Ottilia IV ? - 2100 was assassinated at the Battle of the Four Armies by order of Lutwik Warhammer Armies: Undead (4th Edition), pg. 26
Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (5th Edition), pg. 22
Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (7th Edition), pg. 14
Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts (8th Edition), pg. 14
Frederik ? - 2429 Sigmar's Heirs, pg. 22
Dieter von Krieglitz 2429 - ? After being deposed as Emperor, Wilhelm III made him Count of Talabecland. The previous count, Frederik, retained control of Talabheim. Sigmar's Heirs, pg. 22
Helmut Feuerbach ? - present current ruler of Talabecland Uniforms & Heraldry of The Empire, pg. 9
Warhammer Armies: The Empire (7th Edition), pg. 22

See also

Notes

  • It is unknown if an equal primogeniture (eldest child, regardless of gender, is the rightful heir) is the norm in Talabecland. It's possible that the eldest daughter inherits only if she has no brother at all.

Sources