User talk:Alcadizaar

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HOW TO ADD SOURCES


It is compulsory to add sources for ANY change or addition of information!

The new text has to be marked with a footnote. Example:

new text.{{Fn|1}}

This footnote is then referenced under "Sources" at the end of the article:

Example:

==Sources==

* {{Endn|1}} [[Battletome: XY]], pg. xx

Any changes or additions that are not marked accordingly will be deleted.

Please first test this function in the Chaos wastes.


While your template: reference list might have good intentions, it is even less user-friendly than the references system by itself. The notice above advices to use <sup>1</sup for a reason, as it is least complicated way to source material and most easily changable for updates (though it is admittedly easier at 40k lex where you can use the source button instead of typing it manually). References system is plain unnecessary and resistant to changes, something not welcomed here.

The reference list template could never be successfully applied to the whole wiki; it would sprawl to ridiculous size with hundreds of references, with the overwhelming majority only used a couple of times. To create a page with new sources, one would firstly need to update that list than transpose the source onto the page itself. Also, how can you add webpages in there (and they are often the only source we get.)? In short, it is just impractical and should be deleted.

Remember, there are many topics here that suffer from insufficient coverage and where any kind of help would be appreciated. Needlessly changing sourcing is not a good use of one's time here.NTC3 04:05, 12 November 2011 (CET)

Well, not the most friendly welcome in the world, but what they hey it's your wiki! I was disappointed that the template idea didn't work as thoroughly as I wanted (i.e. using a variable in the content section, it literally displayed the variable {{{3}}}) which would have reduced the number of links dramatically. If it's not wanted though then that's fine, it was a slightly more flexible idea in that if you update the template then every page referencing it is updated (reduces the chance of partial updates through the wiki) however as you say there is an extra step to adding new sources and it's not as user friendly for new starters. Plus that list would get immense...
On a side point, please find below the code to add in the button for the toolbar which I stripped out of the 40k lexicanum (and potentially an updated version below it). It needs to go into MediaWiki:Common.js but being a protected page I can't add it myself. If you want to change the image then you just need to upload a new one and change the image file reference (though it should work without changing it).
if (mwCustomEditButtons) {
 
 mwCustomEditButtons[mwCustomEditButtons.length] = {
   "imageFile": "http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/c/c4/Button_ref.png",
   "speedTip": "Sourcing 1",
   "tagOpen": "*<sup>1</sup>:",
   "tagClose": "",
   "sampleText": ""}
  }
if (mwCustomEditButtons) {

 mwCustomEditButtons[mwCustomEditButtons.length] = {
   "imageFile": "http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/c/c4/Button_ref.png",
   "speedTip": "Sourcing 1",
   "tagOpen": "*<sup>1</sup>: ",
   "tagClose": "p. xx",
   "sampleText": "[[Warhamemr Armies: XX]] "}
  }

I'll try adding it to my own user common.js page to test it but it depends if "$wgAllowUserJs = true;" is set to true or not!--Alcadizaar 09:03, 12 November 2011 (CET)

Ah it appears to be turned off, so it needs to be a MediaWiki:Common.js update :)--Alcadizaar 09:08, 12 November 2011 (CET)